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August 21, 2009

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My textbook/easy child was the worst sleeper, but it seemed every time we decided to sleep train her, she got sick or was teething or what have you. At 20 months I was so tired and pregnant (due 3 weeks later with baby #2) that we let her cry it out one night- not necessarily intentionally, but it just kind of happened that way. Shockingly, it worked and she started sleeping more or less through the night. Weirdly,this all happened the week after I got your book! It's like I thought 'this isn't going to work anyway, so I am not really doing CIO - she is in the wrong stage, etc.' setting myself up for failure strangely led to success.

From my experiences with Charlie I ultimately came to the conclusion that some children are sleepers and will sleep no matter what and some children are not and won't sleep whatever you do. I also came to the conclusion that no matter how compassionate and responsive a parenting philosophy you have, if you are so exhausted that you fall asleep listening to your child cry hysterically that perhaps it's time to look at CIO so you can at least go at it in a logical, planned manner with parameters.

Finally, I really thought that the authors of sleep books should provide their contact information so that they could show you how simply setting up the correct environment would make your baby sleep for more than 20 minutes at a stretch...

DD now at 32 months is low reactivity but has difficulties self regulating. Earlier on she was much harder to soothe, particularly in those periods you mentioned ( 8-11, 18-23). She was sleep trained by 7 months. It was a fairly long process lasting a month or so, but from 7 months onwards, she was sleeping really well both at night and for naps. HOWEVER, the sleep training wore off around the 18 month mark, and we never found the right moment to 'remind' her. In fact she is sleeping pretty poorly right now, and I can't for the life of me think how it will be possible to sleep train her until she comes out of this 2.5 year transition.

We used a modified CIO which worked well for us and her as she is the classic tension releaser who even now needs to wail and flail around in order to get to sleep ( she has done this more than once on planes to the horror of passengers sitting next to us).

My 4.5 year old who is a very easy child and excellent sleeper only required 2 nights of sleep training at around 5.5 months. In hindsight I don't think the modified CIO I used with him was the best fit for him ( he is more like a tension retainer) but it was more than successful and quite frankly I don't think he is scarred by the experience.

I have a question about sleep training and environment. Is it possible that regardless of your kids temperament if they have to deal with a particular environment then they learn to adapt their sleep to the environment. I ask this because i was recently talking to my SIL and her daughter can sleep anywhere. If she's tired it doesn't matter how noisy, light filled etc it is. Whereas my sons, don't have the same flexibility. They for the most part need a particular type of environment to get good sleep. My niece though can sleep for hours wherever. The difference is I have worried about sleep schedules and environment and tried to stick to some sort of predictability through the life of my children and my SIL just took her daughter everywhere without regard for schedule and just sort of had a very she'll sleep when she want to sleep attitude.
And i wonder how much of that makes a difference long term.

Very interesting. I am not sure what category my 19 month old fits in. She's generally quite a relaxed child, but then she usually gets her own way! I wouldn't describe her as confrontational, but maybe she's a little on the anxious side, but on the other hand is generally quite sociable even with strangers. However, she's definitely exhibited almost exclusively nighttime-specific separation anxiety since she was about 12-14 months. Sleep training for us went quite well at 5.5 months but that was mostly nap training, not nightweaning; was not as successful on subsequent attempts at 12,14,15 and 16-ish months when we were trying to make nightweaning part of the deal (and therefore prolonging her separation from us).

In desperation, despite knowing it was a developmentally sensitive phase (and with canine teething to boot), we tried a in-and-out type approach with her daughter two weekends ago (I guess controlled crying, but not leaving her for escalating or otherwise set intervals) and she screamed for 2.5 hours + on the second night, basically every time we were out of the room. DID NOT WORK FOR OUR FAMILY, and the poor little thing ended up hoarse for almost a week, although strangely did not appear to react any differently in the daytime. So we quit.

We have now switched to a gentler, gradual withdrawal-sitting-in-room-until-she-falls-asleep-but-moving-chair-nightly approach, with way less angst for everyone concerned and some gradual improvement - which is something, when the canines are factored in. She's still cosleeping later in the night. I don't know if it's her personality or the developmental phase, but she just seems completely unable to cope with our absence at night and is requiring a ,ot of reassurance that we are still around. So I would second your take on anxious/inhibited types.

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