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January 07, 2010

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I'm still waiting for Frances to have a temper tantrum. She's six. And every day I thank whatever powers there may be that I happened to get the most easy going child who was ever born.

(Which isn't to say that I never have to worry about discipline issues, only that aggression and defiance are not part of them. So I'm looking forward to this week.)

What a great post. I find the philosophical end of the question very interesting. I agree that children come into the world with aggressive tendencies (the reason people are so throughly ensconced at the top of the food chain is that we're very capable of aggression.) As you said, I see it as my job to teach my kids appropriate ways to express aggression. I also think it's part of my job to teach them to deal with aggression from other people, which is much more difficult for me as someone who hates conflict and doesn't have good skills in that area. While I don't think they're born pure, I think it takes tons of patience and acceptance to get them through to a point where they can regulate their own behavior, and I don't expect them to get it right every time.

Wild. My husband and I fall into the first category--we try to gently lead 2.5 year old E through her emotional upsets without quashing her "natural" self. My brother and his wife fall into the second category--they are very strict, loving disciplinarians, and seem to feel, as you say, that it is their absolute duty to steer their three boys to the straight and narrow. Of course, we are a couple of artist-type, anarchist, atheistic creative types. And they are right-leaning, law-loving, tithe-giving evangelical Christians. Somehow my brother and I both came from the same family and upbringing. (And, for the record, we all have a great time at family gatherings and such. We basically stay out of each other's way in regards to childrearing philosophy, which keeps every thing peaceful.)

I am wondering this week, if, like the sleep training guidance, that the guiding principle for discipline and childrearing (within limits, of course) is actually consistency?

I think it's really interesting to contemplate the philosophical stuff - do people come into this world innately good and pure, or innately aggressive and selfish.

Personally, I think it is both; we need both aspects in order to get along with people and be loved and accepted, but to also get our own needs met and be individuals. I view the toddler defiance and clinginess as flip sides of the same coin, part of the process of learning how to be a human and live with other humans.

I think, as Irene has put it, it's all part of the process of learning how to be human and have our needs met.

I'm so pleased that this post emphasises the normality of agression and opposition at this age.

Skills have to be learned to help us communicate effectively with others, learn to listen to others and learn to negotiate our way through life.

Until we learn these skills, agression is the only way we have of dealing with frustration.

I'm still learning and honing these skills, so my 3-year-old and I are learning together.

I feel that I've been successful in helping him when in an angry, unhappy moment he can tell me (sobbing, screaming, whatever) WHY he is being aggressive and when he can describe with words how he feels. Then we have a chance to figure it out.

Eventually I hope he will learn better ways to deal with the sometimes unavoidable anger and sadness that are a part of life.

I'm really looking forward to hearing more about your dissertation topic and have a particular interest in the anxiety/depression part of it.

Thanks again for the great post.

Flo

@Andrea: Good point that discipline doesn't always have to be about defiance and aggression. It often is in the younger ages, but not always. And at older ages, there's a whole group of concerns that I hope to get to (I guess now it will be next week).

@anon: I hear you... I'm a HUGE conflict-avoider, so I have a similar parenting challenge (luckily my partner is more direct and assertive than I am in conflicts with strangers -- I can hold my own with family and friends ;-)

@Kelly: you anticipated a whole other general post. I totally agree, a LOT has to do with consistency (with some game-plan for dealing with defiance/anger/aggression) and, I would add, a loving environment. With those two things in place, I think most kids come out ok. What's interesting to me is that I think of myself as an odd mixture of you and your brother (much more you-leaning though). I'm hyper-left, atheist (ish), socialist (ish), but I consider myself also a "disciplinarian" in that I do believe in guiding my kids towards their less "natural" tendencies to share, empathize, be generous, kind, and so on. When one boy was biting, I was VERY strict about getting rid of that behaviour (with an eye, of course, to understanding the source of his frustration and anger and teaching him more appropriate behaviours to express those emotions). When the other boy, recently, teased his brother, I was quick to point that behaviour out as "wrong" and to try to change it. I consider these things in the realm of "discipline" and I don't think they learn to stop these aggressive behaviours on their own. I also think of it as my "duty" to teach my children more peaceful, gentle, and less impulsive/"natural" reactions. But I suspect you'd agree with me, so some of this may all be about terminology as well (I never really labelled myself, for example, as a "strict dispclinarian").

@Irene: I completely agree with the "both" perspective.

@Flo: Also, totally agree. And yeah, I'll get to more of the "internalizing" issues (anxiety/depression) in later posts. I'm so glad you're interested.

Interesting post.

I think I fall somewhere in the middle. I think very few, if any, kids come out truly "bad", as in with behaviors and motivations that we'd tend to identify as "evil", but that most kids also have incredibly poor impulse control and also lack the skills to come up with appropriate ways to handle their emotions. So I tend to focus on teaching my daughter skills to handle whatever emotional upset is causing the tantrum. Or that is what I try to do. Frankly, sometimes I fall far short of my ideal.

I'd be interested to know your opinion on the common technique of teaching a kid to hit a pillow or something to handle anger. I don't find that it works for me- if I hit something, I usually feel even angrier. But so many people I know use this technique, so maybe it works for others? (I do get excellent stress relief from physical exercise, and from kickboxing in particular, which I never have been able to reconcile with the effect of punching a pillow.)

@Cloud: I gotta run to pick up kids, but wanted to comment before I forgot: There's good evidence (which I don't have at my figertips to link to) that, as your intuitions tell you, the hitting-the-pillow technique actually INCREASES anger and aggression, not decreases. The hypothesis that it's cathartic and therefore releases all that pent-up anger and tension has been shown in several studies to not actually hold. Remind me to post those studies...

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